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Sturmer's avatar

God Bless him for his wise words!

EveOnlineTutorials's avatar

Well, he's not wrong really, Dragons Dogma II hid the massive costs until release, it needs to stop, gamers are not here to be milked for money. I mean hell we pay 60-80 just for the games alone most of the time.

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But see, you pay, gamers pay. As long as people keep buying everything and anything simply because "They cannot do without it", because "They cannot be the ones without it", because "They cannot wait", companies will keep on going as greedy as possible because in the end, it fills the coffer.

It's the same with LEGO, "LEGO is shit, their products are growing less and less good and their prices are skyrocketing" and yet everyone buys every thing LEGO spits out, good or bad. LEGO is obviously continuing cutting on quality and raising the prices, but people buys everything anyway, so why should they change strategy when it keeps revenues high?

Gamers complain Capcom is shit and yet everyone still bought DD2, everyone still run to buy everything, to buy the fast travel thingies and all. So why should Capcom care when the wallet is filling up anyway?

And don't tell me gamers remember, if they did, we wouldn't be here. DD2 is only the last of a growing list of games that suffered from greedy corporations. Each and every time, gamers got indignant and then forgot as quickly as they got indignant.

Sturmer's avatar

People vote with their coin, pointless to say 'they are bad and greedy' if you continue to support this 'toxic relationship'

But yea, capcom's quality is shocking...

Dave's avatar

Disagree. They are the top rated publisher for 2023 on metacritic and have a very good rep for top quality releases across different forums.

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/capcom-is-metacritics-top-game-publisher-of-2023#:~:text=Capcom%20took%20the%20number%20one,an%20average%20Metascore%20of%2084.5.

Sturmer's avatar

then it's time to find out who sabotaged their release =)

Dave's avatar

Ha ha, I think the issue is RE engine is made for corridor and small style environments, and not really ideal for open world like DD2, that's my guess, then they have had to make technical compromises to make it work. It's a shame because the actual game itself is amazing. Shot themselves in the foot with the bad PR from the optional cheating micro transactions, but at the same time all their previous games had similar optimal time saving stuff and noone was bothered.

Dave's avatar

While I agree the mtx in the game are ridiculous and shouldn't be in there, there isn't really a massive cost to play it in the normal way, the items are not needed and are earned in game. I do feel ripped off about the deluxe edition though as nearly all the items included in it are single use which was not explained in the product description! There should be more noise about that.

The narrative about how you can buy fast travel usage for real money isn't true. You can buy one and one only port crystal for real money. This is a fast travel marker where you can set one custom location to fast travel to, that can never be relocated. It isn't a token to actually use fast travel, those must be earned in game (or just use the oxe cart routes which is another fast travel system). You can also earn port crystals to set fast travel markers in game as well. It does not cost real money to fast travel and you cannot spend to do so even if you wanted to.

Buying an extra save slot for $2. There is no such dlc, this is completely made up. The game doesn't let you start a new game/multiple saves even if you did want to pay for it (which is a really bad design decision, mad you can't start a new game without messing around in the files).

Buying extra lives instead of reverting to save. You can buy a maximum of 5 of these for real money. Total waste of money, you can earn them in game and they are rare (part of the game design), but it isn't like people claim that the game is designed in a way to make you keep buying lives and spending all your real money.

Paying real money to change your character. You can only buy this once and it's single use. You cannot pay again and get another even if you wanted to.

Buying in-game currency. You can buy quite a lot of this (I think about $30 worth and not again) and ruin the game progression if you want to. Basically paying to cheat.

I'm not trying to defend their presence, they are a rip off, unnecessary and shouldn't be in the game. It's reasonable for people to complain about it. I'm Just trying to lay out what they actually are, rather than some of the clickbait rage on YouTube and blogs, which is exaggerated. The wierd one save system and no way to restart is bizarre, but it's not done to sell anything, it's just a really weird decision.

Dave's avatar

Here is the proof you cannot pay more than once to change your character. You can pay to do it once, but after that to do it again you will have to earn it in game like every other player.

I can't pay for it even if I wanted to as I already bought it once (included in the deluxe edition as a single use item, which is an issue in itself). It's basically a way to piece meal buy the pre order bonuses and the deluxe edition items (for most of the items) at a higher price. You won't see this mentioned in all the coverage about it though and would get savaged for trying to point it out on other platforms for supporting mtx in a full price game (which I'm not).

Paul's avatar

Great to see somone in the industry speak up about greed in the industry, especially after the game awards poor treatment of the devs to cram more adds and trailers in.

And if the layoffs keep up dispite the games making huge profit, people will not want to become developers and the industry will crumble.

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