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Shovel's avatar

I genuinely feel like we’re going to be in an age where most music is going to be AI. The idea of concerts and shows will be done mostly virtually or using a headset just like Justin Bieber did during Covid times.

Saying that tho, I do feel like real artists with proper voices may become a novelty idea so I reckon they’ll be more of like a cult following!

Braulio M Lara 🔹's avatar

FUTURE MUSIC

The music is very cyclical from Drums , wind instruments and cord to electronic or folklore

in my opinion the humanity will discover new rhythm 🥁 from India , Australia, Tibet , Siberia or Africa mixing with new electronic sounds and off course the AI will give cyber voice and new version of dead singer made it by computer (today they do it)

in conclusion a big mix of new things but a big doses of the music that we hear all the time

good or bad we always can back to the classic

DU

It is difficult to predict what music will be like in 20 years, but you only have to think about how in 2004 compact discs were still used and how in less than 20 years they were displaced by streaming services.

Based on what we have observed over the last 20 years, and in light of today's technology, I believe that independent online music distribution will continue to consolidate and more and more major labels will lose ground.

I believe that the emergence of artificial intelligence will be key for the industry, both for the commercial part and for production and composition.

On the other hand, online platforms will continue to expand and take music around the world and it will become increasingly easier to access all the musical production on the planet.

FirestormGamingTeam's avatar

For me I despair for music, back in the days of being a kid i.e in college from 15-18, we had Limp Bizcuit, Blink 182, Stereophonics etc. We had real music, by real artists and when they sang, you heard their voices.

Nowadays, it is all autocue, auto sound, it lacks any real lacklustre, I find it very hard to find new bands and artists who actually have real, raw talent.

So to the question, how do I think music will change in 20 years? I think we are going to head in a huge electrical surge in music, where music will become fully "online" and "concerts" will soon become a thing of the past and it's a genuine worry for me!

Lanah Tyra's avatar

I don't want to.live in a world where there is no live music.

One of the reasons why I love Serenity is the clear vocals and meaningful lyrics. You know like Sabaton is basically history lessons in the form of music? Serenity is the same with more symphonic elements.

Gaypengwing's avatar

I think that it will become far more accessible, with newer bands being able to promote online without it costing them an arm and a leg, people will be able to find affordable and quality bands in their area easily. Not to mention crowd funding for creating albums or renting studio space or campaigns with limited edition merch for supporters creating a community for bands of all kinds.

Unfortunately with this, technology will also be working again bands and live music. Due to how readily available AI is now and companies wanting media made internally instead of outsourcing. Many pieces for films, games etc will lose their soul and emotion through being cranked out of a computer. Technology can be used to create masterpieces and for sci fi sequences, I can understand its place but nothing should replace live music and the raw emotion that can be conveyed through it.

C

I think with new AI tools more people will be able to create and express themselves as an artist electronically which i believe is a good thing but I also think people will start to value it's creativity less. I feel this may shift people into liking more raw/live music.

M

To look forward I think you have to acknowledge what is happening right now. 20 years ago, Hip/Hop and R&B were huge, booming genres and have maintained popularity ever since. Now, those same genres have started to influence what was a dying genre in Country. Now country music is more popular than it was at the heights on Nelson, Cash, Kristofferson, Hill, McGraw etc.

So, for me, I think this newfound popularity will influence the next generation of musicians who see the likes of Post Malone, Taylor Swift, and Beyoncé and move from one genre to another and realize that there is no reason to pigeonhole themselves.

I'm not quite saying it's going to lead to a complete breakdown of the concept of music genres, but I think artists will be far more experimental and open in how their music changes from one album to the next. I distinctly remember how Paramore were treated when they moved from Punk Rock to more Pop music when Brand New Eyes came out after Riot!. This kind of backlash will hopefully never be seen again and everyone will be more open to all genres of music.

Bonus round: I fully expect Vinyls to die off again, but perhaps in 20 years we might have come full circle and they'll be back in fashion. I personally love the collecting aspect and having the physical media, but the costs are becoming unmanageable for most people to even bother starting.

Rich's avatar

It's so interesting you mention the country music resurgence, I've had several country songs come up on my YouTube shuffle and been really enjoying them. I guess there's always going to be an element of tastes evolving, and whether it's a wholly new niche or an old one that's been neglected, there's always likely to be some fertile ground to be found!

Sneaky_Prawn's avatar

I watched a Joe Rogan podcast recently where his guest basically explained how they used AI based software to generate infinite amounts of possible songs. They then released this information into the public domain effectively eliminating any future copyright claims and lawsuits.

Rich's avatar

😮 That's rather concerning! So using AI to push past copyright protections by brute force? Would you mind sharing the link to the podcast episode?

JB
  1. As Retro Stumentioned, I can't help but feel there is going to be a heavy influence and expansion in music created by AI as years go on. I'm not sure if the music will necessarily be released as an AI artist but more that people use AI to create beats and melodies that are then used to vocalise over. The other likely involvement of AI will be dance music, where there's often very little vocals involved and just a reliance on the music itself, which would lend itself very neatly to AI to create.

  2. The second area I see changing is pop groups. There has been something of a boom for K-Pop in recent years but a big decline in the popularity of mainstream boy/girl bands. I think this will change and we will start to see a big resurgence with a number of Super-hyped groups like One Direction, Little Mix when they were at the peak of their powers.

  3. Certain genres are very unlikely to see any decline, such as rock and rap/R&B but maybe we will see a resurgence in garage music (fingers crossed!)

Inhibitd's avatar

Technology makes the Genre

As an amateur electronic composer of elder years, I've seen music change in emphasis as society chooses new ways of thinking. The definition of being a musician has changed with culture too; where once we were hardware programmers and performers we are now all producers. In my experience cultural trends are driven by technology foremost.

I've been lucky enough to have good access to some genre defining instruments; like the Jupiter, SH101, Juno 106, TB 303 and TR909 to name a few. Much of modern music is shaped by the limitations and workflow of these "classic" instruments. Older electronic music was often pattern and loop based by necessity. The invention of the Digital Audio Workstation and trackers has slowly changed music because linear composition became more achievable - especially for recording artists.

Daw development continues to advance. I use these myself (no they didn't pay me) two good examples: Blockhead by colugo (in dev - can get through patreon).

Blockhead is an innovative self contained audio based DAW that treats time differently than most.

Then theres VCV rack - a software based eurorack simulator that is free standalone and paid within a VST wrapper (can be used in third party software) with over 3500 free modules: video by VCV rack

The reason Is bring these up is that these innovations reflect the changing needs of the musician but also colour the technical composition of what is achievable to beginners and professionals alike.

AI

New technology will inevitably change how music is presented and the use of AI will certainly create its problems but it will also assist. Constructing a whole song with conversation and singing is not far off. Auto generation may play a factor in the commercial economy, but that creates a demand for music fit for iteration. New revenue streams emerge with every advancement. By 2027 we will have automated AI engineers -after that point AI will become super intelligent in the space of a year. Then it will be able to compose original pieces.

Microtonality

A big indicator of the future of music is the advancement of control surfaces, in particular the emergence of MPE midi protocol, but also software (in particular) and hardware that supports custom tunings and constant glide. Hans Zimmer's Dune soundtracks show off the use of both microtonal instruments like violins and home made wind instruments alongside a team using MPE controllers. You too can make orchestral swells but on your phone. A good example of microtonal controllers is the Lumatone keyboard.

We are starting to see the re-emergence into popularity of traditional folk music which has long used "odd" notes, Carnatic and Hindustani music, Maqam music and obscure jazz and classical are just a few examples. As modern 12 tone equal temperament becomes more oversaturated and iterated upon people will look to a newer note palette and performative excellence will be in much higher demand due to the extra difficulty of these instruments.

It is far more difficult to reproduce microtonal music with AI (true microtonal music would need adaptive AI), and still pretty difficult without it. The digital hardware instrument manufacturing industry is still lagging behind the software industry in that regard and the commercial viability of experimental music is limited by demands of the artist and the user.

The Open Music Phenomena

More and more people will be taking a new approach to music performance - the bardic one. Part of the reason is the miniaturisation and advancement in technology. Open music nights are opening all across the country driven by social networking; as a result of it and to avoid it. Musicians now approach these events as social gatherings, a motivational exercise and as an opportunity to self promote. Small underground open music events and open music streams will become the new nightclubs and pubs where the music is important not the personality behind it.

In summary - real music is going to get a lot weirder. I'm down for it.

Rich's avatar

This is an outstanding response, thank you. AI seems to be an anxiety (or perhaps just a resigned prediction) that's dominating this thread, which I totally get, but I consider the gulf between where AI is at now (essentially just reproducing and rearranging their vast training data, albeit impressively) and what it would take for something to be considered 'truly' original or creative, and I wonder about the space in between.

Abstract reasoning, setting one's own goals, creating something with intentionality/purpose, having experiences and interpreting them subjectively, and of course sentience - these are all still limitations on true originality. I think their difficulty varies and can see how some can be toppled quite easily as AI progresses, but others I'm not sure about. You seem confident that we're no more than five or six years away from AI being able to create original songs, though, so are all of these barriers, ultimately, bound to be overcome, and that soon? If so, what d'you think an AI-authored song might sound like? How 'good' would it be?

TrialByStory's avatar

The more things change, the more they stay the same. There's little doubt that the frontier of music will continue to expand. We'll continue to get more diverse sounds as new artists remix, reinvent, and expand genres to the point that what's popular 20 years from now may sound impenetrably avant garde by current standards. But at the same time, the music that exists today won't go away. Bands my break up and artists may retire, but there will always be some new group of friends who grew up learning to play their favorite songs from their parents' generation and decide to make music just like that. Led Zeppelin may be a thing of the past, for example, but Greta Van Fleet are here now playing the exact same kind of 'blues but louder and with distortion,' that made those four guys from London famous. The Ramones may be dead and gone, but Punk is a live and well. And in the information age, with the expansion of power and availability of musical technology, we're increasingly living in a world where it's possible to find someone making music that seemingly exists for you and you alone. The future of music is insanely bright.

Retro Stu's avatar

When I think about how much music has changed in my (almost) 40 years on this planet it's mind boggling to see just how much has been created and how much cast aside as the years roll by.

I think the big thing from a technological standpoint will see a rise in AI generated music, be it full tracks or vocal samples in dance tracks for example. People will point to AI and say it's the devil it's taking away from artists, but really, there were hardcore musos back in the 80s and 90s bemoaning the use of sampling and computer generated music and I imagine a similar discourse will set in before it eventually settles down.

From a live music point of view, AI can't replicate a live band on stage so there's going to be that mainstay of live performances but I do feel the pop market in particular will see a surge in AI generated one hit wonders.

As with any evolution, technology will have a big part in what happens musically. Personally I'd like to see people looking back to some of the older computer generated stuff and try and reinvent it with the luxuries that new tech offers. Be that a revival of 80s pop or a new generation of prog rock dripping with effects and synthesizers.

C

I believe that it will go back into the 80's and 90's

music is always evolving but at the same time it always revisits previous era's in timelines and this is because the creators of now will always be inspired by the creator's of then, This is the Zen of music and what helps it recreate memories or inspire those who feel it's movement to make more from it. I have always said that the artist's of now will always carry the music from the past as it is in their D.N.A.

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Paul's avatar

I do not want this to happen but feel AI would have pushed its way in to the music industry.

It could be in various ways from music/song writing, creating the music to mimicking the artist themselves or even all of the above.

Of course with AI today you can probably do this however I mean this will be within the industry its self.

I really hope Im wrong though.

Toretto 70's avatar

Today's music cannot be separated from EDM, it can be concluded that in the future it will be like futuristic rhythms and contain varied bass. Or on the contrary, we are bored with modern nuances which often don't have a feeling of art in them. so we choose to return to classical music

A

More immersive. More stiumlatiin for kids with Adhd, i think ai will impact it and hopefully Vr videos will help make music feel more immersive

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